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Hi, I am interested in making a trip to Tijuana and I would like some information about the street prostitutes.
I am a 43 year old guy who has mild autism and I am wondering what they are like about guys who have this.

Other enquiries:

1. How kind and friendly are these women?

2. How good is their English?

3. What are their rates?

4. If they do hour meetings, how many times do they allow cumming/sex in that time?

5. Do they offer anything in the way of a girlfriend experience?

6. I have Stud 100 Delay Spray and condoms, will they be OK to take with me? If not, where can I buy them in Tijuana?

7. Which hotels are hooker friendly?

 

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nonsensicalElixir
1 hour ago, Loner2 said:

Hi, I am interested in making a trip to Tijuana and I would like some information about the street prostitutes.
I am a 43 year old guy who has mild autism and I am wondering what they are like about guys who have this.

Other enquiries:

1. How kind and friendly are these women?

2. How good is their English?

3. What are their rates?

4. If they do hour meetings, how many times do they allow cumming/sex in that time?

5. Do they offer anything in the way of a girlfriend experience?

6. I have Stud 100 Delay Spray and condoms, will they be OK to take with me? If not, where can I buy them in Tijuana?

7. Which hotels are hooker friendly?

Welcome amigo!

I know you said street prostitutes, but there are really several types of girls you can see. Based on your questions, street prostitutes or street girls might not be what you are looking for. The main categories of girls are:

SGs - street girls which typically stand in and around the alley in Zona Norte. They will only go to hotels in Zona Norte and typically a hotel they are working for.

BGs - bar girls who are prostitutes who work in the bars in Zona Norte. They will only go to the hotels associated to the bars they are working for in Zona Norte.

Escorts - girls who will come to your hotel. But typically will not come to hotels in Zona Norte.

1. How kind and friendly are these women?

SGs usually just want to get the deed done and get paid. BGs will be happy to sit with you, talk, dance and do whatever you want as long as you keep buying them overpriced drinks called fichas. Escorts will do whatever you want while they are in your hotel room.

2. How good is their English?

SGs typically know very little English, but you don't need to talk much to negotiate and take them to a hotel. BGs are hit and miss for English. More English speakers in the main bars such as Hong Kong, Adelitas and Chicage Club. Escort sites will typically promote who has good English skills.

3. What are their rates?

200-400 pesos (with current exchange rates $10-$20) for SGs for 20 min. BGs are typically $60 - $80 for 30 min. Escorts vary from $80 - $150 for an hour.

4. If they do hour meetings, how many times do they allow cumming/sex in that time?

Normally SGs are for only 20 min and a single pop. Possible to negotiate something different but you probably want to see another type of girl.

BGs can be negotiated for an hour or more, but will need to make sure to specify you want MSOG (Multiple Shots on Goal). BTW, many guys, including myself, have a hard time finishing more than once in an hour especially with a prostitute. So you might want to just try one of the normal time ranges so you don't over pay. You can always see her again later or a different girl when you are ready to go.

Escorts typically include MSOG.

5. Do they offer anything in the way of a girlfriend experience?

SGs usually will not provide GFE.

BGs are hit and miss on GFE.

For escorts GFE should be considered part of the standard package.

6. I have Stud 100 Delay Spray and condoms, will they be OK to take with me? If not, where can I buy them in Tijuana?

You can bring your own condoms. SGs and BGs will get a condom for you when they check-in. Escorts expect you to bring the condoms typically.

7. Which hotels are hooker friendly?

Most hotels are friendly to escorts. Hotel Ticaun is a popular choice as it is very nice and relative to US pricing on the cheaper side. There are other less expensive options as well, but a reminder SGs and BGs typically will not go to hotels outside of Zona Norte.

Hope this helps!

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Sargon

Excellent summary @nonsensicalElixir!!  Nice of you to take the time.

@Loner2 Most of what you are asking can be learned by reading this site.  Go to the main page and look in the subjects.  

What NSE said above is 100% correct.  If I were you, I would get an escort as they will be (in general) the most hassle-free, understanding experience.  Forget SGs until you have more experience under your belt, so to speak.  Escorts will most likely be the most "forgiving" of your autism (however that manifests itself).  SGs may run out of the room or even refuse to go up.  My understanding is they tend to be less educated girls from the countryside and may be freaked out by autism, again depending upon your version.  

BGs could work for you in that you can have an interview process and can see if you "click" before you go arriba.  During that time you can negotiate additional time and MSOG, but if you want an hour and MSOG, the cost could be as much or more than an escort.

For escorts, I personally have used MexicoLindoBar several times with ZERO hassles, the girls were as advertised and the GFE was off the charts.  One hour at La Mansion (that rents for ~$28 for four hours) and two pops each time.

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huatulco
3 hours ago, Loner2 said:

Stud 100 Delay Spray

Can an amigo elaborate on this? :bald_head:

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Don Pisto
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Great advice @nonsensicalElixir, and @Sargon, in addition, try to pace yourself, and don't worry if you over-pay, just don't pay in advance-ever-if you want to show the

girls your money-in the room-then that's ok, just don't leave your money out/unattended, or she may grab it and run-this is un-likey, but, still, shit happens.

IMO, I would only patronize the well-known larger clubs, Hong Kong, Chicago Club, Adelias, and my personal favorite-Tropical Bar. Don't let anyone force you to buy drinks,

or go up with any chica-remember people are very desperate and their goal is to detach you from your money as quickly as possible. Always carry your money, cellphone in your 

front pockets, and never take them out unless you have to. Never count your money in front of anyone.

When returning to the border, IMO take an uber or patronize the blue/white cabs stationed across the street from the Chicago Club-they are reliable/friendly and trustworthy 

fellows!

As you know, due to COVID-19, the clubs are closed at this time, there are rumors of their reopening on May 28th or so. The SG's are still posted on the streets however.

If you can wait until May 28th, I would! Either way-have FUN!! and report back to the board when you are able.

PM me if you have any further concerns!

VIVA MEXICO!

 

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Haus
4 hours ago, Loner2 said:


I am a 43 year old guy who has mild autism and I am wondering what they are like about guys who have this.

 

...bring your dollars, they like guys who bring dollars

      ;)

 

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Sargon
40 minutes ago, Don Pisto said:

Great advice @nonsensicalElixir, and @Sargon, in addition, try to pace yourself, and don't worry if you over-pay, just don't pay in advance-ever-if you want to show the

girls your money-in the room-then that's ok, just don't leave your money out/unattended, or she may grab it and run-this is un-likey, but, still, shit happens.

IMO, I would only patronize the well-known larger clubs, Hong Kong, Chicago Club, Adelias, and my personal favorite-Tropical Bar. Don't let anyone force you to buy drinks,

or go up with any chica-remember people are very desperate and their goal is to detach you from your money as quickly as possible. Always carry your money, cellphone in your 

front pockets, and never take them out unless you have to. Never count your money in front of anyone.

When returning to the border, IMO take an uber or patronize the blue/white cabs stationed across the street from the Chicago Club-they are reliable/friendly and trustworthy 

fellows!

As you know, due to COVID-19, the clubs are closed at this time, there are rumors of their reopening on May 28th or so. The SG's are still posted on the streets however.

If you can wait until May 28th, I would! Either way-have FUN!! and report back to the board when you are able.

PM me if you have any further concerns!

VIVA MEXICO!

Or go now and get an escort.

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nonsensicalElixir
33 minutes ago, Haus said:

...bring your dollars, they like guys who bring dollars

      ;)

Pesos work as well.

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Sargon

Even Euros.....

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nonsensicalElixir
4 minutes ago, Sargon said:

Even Euros.....

I have a wheelbarrow full of Zimbabwe currency, will that work?

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smoothburnn
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, huatulco said:

Can an amigo elaborate on this? :bald_head:

I’ve never heard of “ Stud 100 Delay Spray”, but I would imagine it is just as it sounds.  A spay that probably  desensitizes your penis to some degree so as to prolong the amount of time that you stay hard, before you ejaculate.  Something to help one, not cum  so quickly.  :bald_head: I would think. 

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4 minutes ago, smoothburnn said:

I’ve never heard of “ Stud 100 Delay Spray”, but I would imagine it is just as it sounds.  A spay that probably  desensitizes your penis to some degree so as to prolong the amount of time that you stay hard, before you ejaculate.  Something to help one, not cum  so quickly.  :bald_head: I would think. 

I've tried condoms before which had a desensitizer. Really sucks as you can't feel anything and made it difficult to stay hard.

Personally, much better to nut quickly and then have a second round later which lasts awhile.

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@nonsensicalElixer did a great job. I will also throw in my opinions and pointers.

 

1. How kind and friendly are these women?

Generally speaking they are much kinder than American women.

2. How good is their English?

Mostly nonexistent but I think that's irrelevant, with body language and very simple Spanish you should be just fine.

3. What are their rates?

The base rate is anywhere between 200 and 300 pesos and that doesn't include the room fee. Never pay in US dollars for SG. In the room the chica will most likely ask for more money for extra services like blowjob, fully nude, ect. These extras typically run in 100 peso increments.

4. If they do hour meetings, how many times do they allow cumming/sex in that time?

Most SG will do hour sessions, but of course that is going to cost more. Hour sessions should be between 800 and 1000 pesos for a base price. Depending on what you want upstairs in addition to that, the price will increase so make sure you have enough 100 and 200 peso bills handy. As far as multiple orgasms go, you should probably ask about that first because sometimes chicas will assume the session is over once you cum.

5. Do they offer anything in the way of a girlfriend experience?

SG for the most part do not offer GFE, you can however get bbbj's and some snuggle action from certain SG. Make sure you are presentable and polite so that the SG may be more receptive to you in case you ask for particular services.

6. I have Stud 100 Delay Spray and condoms, will they be OK to take with me? If not, where can I buy them in Tijuana?

You can bring any condom you like with no issues. Condoms can be purchased at most pharmacies and convenience stores like OXXO. They may not have your brand of choice so it is better to bring your own.

7. Which hotels are hooker friendly?

I would say most are but some aren't from personal experience. You can never go wrong with mongering classics like Hotel Ticuan, Hotel Caesars, Aqua Rio, Pueblo Amigo, ect. If you have questions about any particular hotel feel free to ask us here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, hoechiminh said:

 

4. If they do hour meetings, how many times do they allow cumming/sex in that time?

Most SG will do hour sessions, but of course that is going to cost more. Hour sessions should be between 800 and 1000 pesos for a base price. Depending on what you want upstairs in addition to that, the price will increase so make sure you have enough 100 and 200 peso bills handy. As far as multiple orgasms go, you should probably ask about that first because sometimes chicas will assume the session is over once you cum.

 

If one is not familiar with SGs, or does not personally know the particular SG, it best to discuss & negotiate everything.  For most SGs , the difference between 20 minutes and 1 hour, is simply 40 minutes of time, and has nothing to do with the amount of sexual activity, or the # of MSOG,   Just because you ask and pay for more time, does not mean you will get more sex. It simply means she will be with you for a longer amount of time.   You can be with her for 20 minutes and cum once, or you can be with her for an hour and cum  once.   Unless you have established the details of your activities & time together, before hand.  With SGs a lot of guys pay for an hour of time, but only get  20 minutes worth of sex.  If you don’t know them  (SG), be very specific with the details of what you want & expect.  Activity wise & Time wise.  

And obviously hoechiminh this is not meant for you.  I know you know :cheers:

:snoozer:

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Loner2, I’m not a psychologist but I’ve known several guys with mild cases of autism spectrum disorder, and I saw how they interacted with others. They seemed to have trouble sustaining basic social interactions like conversation (i.e., small talk), were “loners” who felt more comfortable away from social situations, and showed some degree of difficulty adjusting to change. The biggest problem regarding women seemed to be with reading social cues from women: they tended either not to see vital social cues or to completely misinterpret them, e.g., like seeing a “hello” or a smile as evidence that the woman had a special interest in them personally, rather than it just being a routine social pleasantry. 

I don’t know if any of those characteristics resonate with you or not. Perhaps your symptoms are milder, perhaps they are stronger. Either way, I can’t really give you a definitive answer to whether coming to TJ is a good idea or not, since I’m not a healthcare pro. Mongering in TJ definitely involves constant social interaction, frequently on an intimate level.  It can be a challenge at times even for those with highly developed social skills.  If there are guys here who have ASD, perhaps they’ll respond to you by DM with their experiences.

If you are in therapy, do you feel comfortable raising this topic with your therapist? They would know your situation far better than we do, and even if they know nothing about TJ and sex work, they probably would give you more helpful feedback than you’ll get here. But if you are determined to come to TJ, I will offer a couple of comments.

First, IMO most of the sex workers are good and kind people. But sex work is not a job that is designed to bring out the natural compassion and kindness of these women. When they’re working, these women are business women, and SGs, in particular, are high volume business women (at least when there isn’t a pandemic). If a popular SG has 10 customers or more per shift, it’s simply impractical for her to make an emotional connection with each and every customer, especially a first time customer.  Instead, if you’re lucky you’ll get a good acting performance from them. They will act like you’re sexy and attractive, and like they’re turned on by your looks, and like they’re having an orgasm. If you aren’t so lucky, you’ll at least get a somewhat distant but accommodating sex partner for a few minutes.  As someone with mild symptoms of ASD, the difficulty for you would be to interpret her cues correctly by recognizing that 99% of the time she is just acting and that her “feelings” for you aren’t real, they’re just part of the job description.

Second, these are mostly women with limited formal education. It’s very doubtful that any of them know much of anything about ASD. So I wouldn’t count on finding one that would understand your specific situation and who would try to accommodate you. Far more likely is that you will have to accommodate them (which may be a challenge for someone in your situation), because most providers, from SGs and BGs to escorts, have a set routine for providing sexual services, which is usually based on some variation of the “”get them in, get them up, get them off” business model. If you disrupt her routine too much by failing to recognize or respond to her social cues regarding sex, intimacy, or her personal boundaries, it could create a difficult, or at least awkward, situation for you.

I’m sorry I can’t give you more definitive answers to your basic questions. We are all different and bring our own unique skill sets to mongering. Some skill sets are better suited to mongering in TJ than others. I’m not trying to discourage you from visiting TJ. I can certainly imagine situations where SGs would be the best choice for someone who has modest difficulties in social situations, since the opportunities for social interaction on the street are pretty limited anyway, and because the SGs don’t typically expect much social interaction from their customers in a basic 15-20 minute session, particularly with gringos who don’t speak Spanish. OTOH, I can envision situations that could go sideways for someone with ASD, especially in a longer session where more advanced social interaction skills, the ability to make small talk, and correctly reading her social cues become more important. I would hazard a guess that the bar scene, which simulates a typical pick-up bar with all of the attendant social interaction, would be the most uncomfortable venue for you and the one that poses the greatest risk for misunderstanding, faulty communication, and failure.

I imagine it was pretty difficult for you to post here for the first time.  Well done, and best of luck, whatever you decide to do.

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Don Pisto

Excellent advice @Matiz, excellent!!!

I know the OP will greatly appreciate your time and concerns!

I wish I knew more about ASD myself!

Anyway, thanks for assisting the OP!

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 maybe I’m slightly autistic.

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I would like to also add, that there is a fair amount of bullshit to deal with outside of just hooking up with a chica. Just crossing the border, getting a taxi/uber can be stressful for first time mongers so be prepared. There will be people all over the border who will ask you for money, I would recommend that you just keep walking and try not to get into conversations with strangers. There will also be people on the street all around Zona Norte who might want to talk to you, again just keep walking. As someone else said you should read this board for all kinds of information before you decide to cross. 

Before you go decide on your plan of action, and try to stick to it when you get down there. Don't let any strangers talk you out of your plan. Ultimately there are some great, knowledgeable people on this board so keep asking questions.  

 

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@Jeffski brings up a great point about conversations on the street: don't get into them with anyone that approaches you speaking English.  It is almost 100% guaranteed that whoever it is, they're looking to scam you in some way.  If you're in the Zona outside in the alley or on Coahulia and a chica walks up to you, wave her off.  These are known as "walkers" or freelancers and they're trouble for newbies (and vets, too, in some cases!).  They don't have health cards, usually are drug addicts, and have all sorts of unsavory characters that they run around with. 

The chicas who are standing against a wall, not really moving from a spot unless they have a customer are the street girls (SGs) or paraditas.  While they may "upsell" you in the room, they are not known as thieves or addicts and are a great value in many cases.  We have an entire subforum dedicated to them.

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Even in the bars be careful who you "befriend".  I had a couple clean-cut Mexican guys chat me up during the foam show at Hong Kong one afternoon.  They gave me a beer from their bucket and we all had fun while they were working the foam show girls for a good 30 minutes+.  They told me they were ex-Mexican military.  They looked it.  Then, one of them left out the alley exit and the other went after him.  I saw them talking just outside the entrance.  Then, one of them came back and tried very, very hard to get me to go with them "down the street to a great seafood restaurant where we can have beer and shrimp".  He was practically dragging me out the door.  I declined repeatedly, saying I had other plans (I did).  No way was I about to walk out and down the alley with two strange guys no matter how clean-cut and friendly they were, and no matter that it was daytime.  

When I went back into HK, one of the girls told me she was glad I didn't go with them because "something was off about those guys".

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2 hours ago, Sargon said:

Even in the bars be careful who you "befriend".  I had a couple clean-cut Mexican guys chat me up during the foam show at Hong Kong one afternoon.  They gave me a beer from their bucket and we all had fun while they were working the foam show girls for a good 30 minutes+.  They told me they were ex-Mexican military.  They looked it.  Then, one of them left out the alley exit and the other went after him.  I saw them talking just outside the entrance.  Then, one of them came back and tried very, very hard to get me to go with them "down the street to a great seafood restaurant where we can have beer and shrimp".  He was practically dragging me out the door.  I declined repeatedly, saying I had other plans (I did).  No way was I about to walk out and down the alley with two strange guys no matter how clean-cut and friendly they were, and no matter that it was daytime.  

When I went back into HK, one of the girls told me she was glad I didn't go with them because "something was off about those guys".

You did the right thing!!

Always listen to your gut instincts!

Don't hang out with ppl you don't know. 

Don't worry about ignoring ppl, they are only hoping to get a small reaction, so they can start a convo. with you. They won't be hurt at all, they are used to being ignored!

Finally, and this took me many, many years to learn, alot of the chicas do not understand guys who are too nice to them--I know, this seems counter-intutive, but trust me on this

Most working girls see nice as soft, and someone who they can easily manipulate to get things from. Chicas have used this on me many, many times. I thought if I'm nice to them,

I would be treated better, but, the sad fact is, they don't understand "being a nice guy" per se. I'm not saying to be an asshole, I'm just trying to say, from alot of experience, that being

too nice, and putting up with their BS lines is not good. Don't be afraid to be short with them, don't be afraid to tell them exactly what you want them to do. They admire this. What

I have found useful is to just jot down, in Spanish--use an app.- what you want from them in the room, and just hand the card to them. I thought that I would be laughed at, or worse

slapped in the face, but in 80% of the cases they agree to my menu and go upstairs very quickly.

PM me if you have any further concerns! 

VIVA MEXICO!

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Something like ...  ¡Quiero llevarte arriba y azotarte con mi polla!

 

 

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Re Sargon's anecdote, you definitely did the right thing.  Chances are these guys were on the level, and this was old-fashioned Mexican drunk bro culture.  But, you always need to have your guard up in the zona, many of the worst people in the world  congregate there, so the risk to reward ratio is off the charts.  Small chance of getting jumped or worse, the payoff is shrimp and beer with strangers.  No brainer.  

Which is good advice for the newcomer.  I once heard that it is better to either go through life trusting everybody or nobody.  In the zona, trust nobody.

And a word on social signaling.  If you define mild autism as difficulty with social signaling, then I think we are all mildly autistic in the zona.  You are dealing with conmen and hustlers, and tricky putas, who have been manipulating emotions and playing games with social signals their entire life.  The good ones can really act.  And let's be honest, we mongers are often not our true authentic selves while in the zona.  Then there is the cultural and language differences, which can a ways to camouflage social awkwardness.  

My understanding is that autistic people are often very sensitive.  Loner2, if you are going to zona you will need to safeguard your feelings and emotions.  There are about 100 different ways your emotions can be fucked with.  Remember what you are getting into, and remember it is essentially a playground.  It is like going to Disneyland, except you are allowed to molest Snow White.  With the right mindset it can be a hell of a lot of fun, and perhaps a way to fill in life experiences one might miss otherwise.  But beyond the sexual, the zona should absolutely never be seen as a way to fill holes in one's life.  People who go that route get burned.

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If I can add to this...DO NOT stop to listen to anyone playing guitar in the zona. There is a real bad dude who goes to zona and usually plays guitar. I understand he hasn't been down there too many times lately. But he likes to gawk at girls around the Eduardo and Porton areas. 

He might hook you in with a Beatles riff or some 80s song. Maybe "Crimson and Clover". Or "Detroit Rock City". I understand he knows some Rush, like YYZ. Someone said he's been playing for 33 years. Damn, not a pro yet?

He sometimes wears shirts from Hawaii, like the big green H with the island silhouette. Or a Hawaii Warriors football jersey. Sometimes, rock band t shirts, like Metallica or Van Halen. He also does British accents, like "hey mate", "fancy that right lookin' bird ovuh thuuh", or "aye, ya 'ave 10 quid for that 6-stone bird right there showin' her knickers? Fancy I could shag her bum" (I overheard him use a NY accent one time...he said "whaadya fockin' tawkin' about there, ya fuckin' prick?" I'll stick your ankles to the Hudson River if you ain't gone in 5. 5".

The zona gets all kinds. BE careful.

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5 hours ago, Don Pisto said:

You did the right thing!!

Always listen to your gut instincts!

Don't hang out with ppl you don't know. 

Don't worry about ignoring ppl, they are only hoping to get a small reaction, so they can start a convo. with you. They won't be hurt at all, they are used to being ignored!

Finally, and this took me many, many years to learn, alot of the chicas do not understand guys who are too nice to them--I know, this seems counter-intutive, but trust me on this

Most working girls see nice as soft, and someone who they can easily manipulate to get things from. Chicas have used this on me many, many times. I thought if I'm nice to them,

I would be treated better, but, the sad fact is, they don't understand "being a nice guy" per se. I'm not saying to be an asshole, I'm just trying to say, from alot of experience, that being

too nice, and putting up with their BS lines is not good. Don't be afraid to be short with them, don't be afraid to tell them exactly what you want them to do. They admire this. What

I have found useful is to just jot down, in Spanish--use an app.- what you want from them in the room, and just hand the card to them. I thought that I would be laughed at, or worse

slapped in the face, but in 80% of the cases they agree to my menu and go upstairs very quickly.

PM me if you have any further concerns! 

VIVA MEXICO!

@Don Pisto you gotta keep the pimp hand strong

 

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