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Pageros

Planning on heading to Tj this month and was wondering if it’s like Thailand, where if i get an hour I only get “1 shot” or it depends how many you can fit within that hour.

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Sargon
2 hours ago, Pageros said:

Planning on heading to Tj this month and was wondering if it’s like Thailand, where if i get an hour I only get “1 shot” or it depends how many you can fit within that hour.

Everything is negotiated between you and the girl.  Depends on bar girl (BG) vs. street girl (SG) vs. escort.  

SGs are generally very short time, one pop only.  That is, unless you have frequented them many times and have established a rapport to get longer time and multiple pops.  SGs are pretty much about get it in, get it off and get gone.  If she has a padrote (uh oh, never mention padrotes!), they are not likely to go for more than the 30 minutes (or less).

Most of the BGs only go up for 30 minutes or maybe an hour.  Depends on the bar, but most don't like the girls off the floor for longer than the 30 minutes because the girl isn't making the bar any money when she's upstairs.  

With escorts, the amount of time is part of the purchase.  It is generally understood (from what I know) that if it is more than an hour, multiple pops are standard.  Someone with more escort experience can opine.

In all situations, I would say the amount of time and the amount of pops is to be negotiated with the girl ahead of time, so anything is possible.  Depends on the girl and her situation and the rapport you build.

JMHO

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briguy
2 hours ago, Sargon said:

With escorts, the amount of time is part of the purchase.  It is generally understood (from what I know) that if it is more than an hour, multiple pops are standard.  Someone with more escort experience can opine.

While I haven't done an hour long escort date in a while, I would usually get a chance for a second pop if there was still enough time left (not sure if this goes for the more budget minded agencies... I always used MLB and Cumintj).. Now that I do all nighters, you usually get an initial pop, a second try soon after and another go in the morning before she leaves. Of course, I'm sure there are others that try to fit more than that in.

As for bar girls, seems like it's mainly a one pop and you're done thing...

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Carlafan

@briguy Sorry for the bit off-topic...WHO is that girl? Wow she's cute.

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briguy
25 minutes ago, Carlafan said:

@briguy Sorry for the bit off-topic...WHO is that girl? Wow she's cute.

Not as off topic as you think, considering she's a freelancer I found at Tiger Disco on Phuket on my first trip to Thailand in 2018. And you can't even see the amazing rack she has. Oh wait... you can! Well, barely, considering the lighting in the pic.

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DavezPlace

 

With a picture like that, who cares if it’s off-topic?

 

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Blazers
21 hours ago, Pageros said:

Planning on heading to Tj this month and was wondering if it’s like Thailand, where if i get an hour I only get “1 shot” or it depends how many you can fit within that hour.

Ive never been to any venue in Thailand where there is only one shot unless it was a BJ bar but those are fairly cheap.    Some girls in Thailand may bail after one shot from a top end gogo bar but you have to negotiate your definition of short time with the girl.

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booger

been wanting to go to thailand for the longest. from what i seen on the youtube videos. they look hot.

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Reuben

New topic started - Thailand vs Philippines:

 

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JBH208

TJ is nothing like Thailand in my humble opinion. Having spent considerable time in the land of smiles and now 15 trips to TJ I feel somewhat qualified to comment on the differences. 

TJ for me was a tough nut to crack.  The girls are not as inhibited or time/ money conscious as in LOS. Taking a girl at a bar will get you 20 minutes of time which is enough to get the deed done. In LOS I have taken many girls back to my hotel only to have them leave 3 days later.  All with no negation on price. This is inclusive of BG and tinder and civie hook ups.  

I did finally establish a connection with a TJ BG who spent most of an afternoon with me which was great but still not up to par with experiences in LOS

TJ has the added benefit of convenient access and the women can be absolutely stunning in a divers array of physical types and ethnic looks.  

I think your question though was specifically directed at multiply pops. This is available in TJ within the allotted time of your engagement. More power to you if you reload in 60 minutes.  

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PhordPhan

Thai and Mexican society are remarkably similar. But the bar scene evolved in diametrically opposed directions.

Thailand's scene used to be "on the down low" with massage being very popular with Thai men. Things were much more discreet. With the advent of the VN war and the influx of GIs, the Thai scene turned to lots of in your face raunch and "long time" liaisons. These were often for the full extent of the soldier's leave. Until rather recently you could still see the lingering effects of this, as long time was often more popular than short time. Today multi-day liaisons are not as popular but till doable with little effort.

TJ evolved to service gringos who wanted to escape for a short period of time across the border to drink and screw. But nobody really wanted to spend days at a time in a dumpy border town like TJ. Best to go over, get it on, get it over with, and get out. So, long-term hotels, and long-term liaisons, were slow in evolving. Bar girls had no reason to consider staying for multiple days because there was virtually no market for it. We still see the effects today, with 30 minute sessions being the norm in a gringo bar. 

Having said that, Thai bar girls tend to be a bit "easier to get along with" for a longer period. In other words it's easier to set up a multi-day liaison. Part of this is due to the above, but I have a theory that another part is due to one cultural difference. Thai culture has a different take on a "wife," something a bit different from Mexican culture. One can have a wife (mia). But there also exists a minor wife (mia noi) or even a rented wife (mia chow). A Thai bar girl can be expected to perform the "duties" of a (rental) wife, i.e. guide, bed partner, and in the old days, even clean up the apartment and cook. So, when GIs started showing up for 5 day stints in BKK, the rental wife concept fit perfectly. The Mexican concept of amigovia, or amante, or concubina differ somewhat, IMO. Mexican society really didn't/doesn't have a place for multiple wives, and hookers tended to be just that - short time liaisons. So, I think this model fit well with the cross the border to have fun concept that sprung up during Prohibition.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

 

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briguy
1 hour ago, PhordPhan said:

Having said that, Thai bar girls tend to be a bit "easier to get along with" for a longer period. In other words it's easier to set up a multi-day liaison.

Excellent analysis. I would also add that Thai girls have the whole "up to you" philosophy. The girl I was with last night was no shrinking violet with her opinions, but believes that many ladies even when they don't understand what their farang boyfriend is saying will just nod their head and agree, that's they feel it's easier to let the guy have his way. I believe Latino ladies are much more inclined to give their opinions.

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ttai

For $20 a pop with sg, want two pops get two girls.

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DavezPlace
23 hours ago, PhordPhan said:

...That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!...

And an excellent story it was!

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Trav

I've had Ficha girls in TJ interested in long term relationships - somehow I got the impression they wanted a green card and to live in the land of the Big PX in my house.  The problem is I know guys who have done that, brought wives in from Mexico and now are paying big bucks in alimony and child support in California after the wives got their green cards and divorced them.  I asked one ex Navy guy, did you ever think that if you had kept your wife in Mexico  in a cheap apartment in TJ, you would be paying almost nothing in alimony and child support?   Your wife would have realized that divorce in Mexico from a rich American would have netted her almost nothing so she wouldn't have divorced you?  He had no answer.

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Don Pisto
8 hours ago, Trav said:

I've had Ficha girls in TJ interested in long term relationships - somehow I got the impression they wanted a green card and to live in the land of the Big PX in my house.  The problem is I know guys who have done that, brought wives in from Mexico and now are paying big bucks in alimony and child support in California after the wives got their green cards and divorced them.  I asked one ex Navy guy, did you ever think that if you had kept your wife in Mexico  in a cheap apartment in TJ, you would be paying almost nothing in alimony and child support?   Your wife would have realized that divorce in Mexico from a rich American would have netted her almost nothing so she wouldn't have divorced you?  He had no answer.

Nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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